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Post by BurningStar4 on Sept 17, 2005 4:56:27 GMT -5
I had to post about this movie:
I just saw Artificial Intelligence for the first time.
I've always stayed away from this movie because I have heard about how amazingly god awful this movie is. But for some reason I was at blockbuster tonight traveling down the sci-fi section and I was like, hm....this dvd looks pretty, maybe I should just give it a try, Stanley Kubrick after all wanted to make this movie and spent so many years trying to make it but eventually let Speilberg do it, and good thing because the man ended up dying, so this is technically the last film to be made that Kubrick had envisioned....Yes, all that went through my mind haha. So, I ended up renting it.
Sorry about the long intro, I just had to get my feelings out about the movie beforehand.
I watched this movie, and it is now 4:50AM and I am still thinking about it. This movie really hit me hard, I don't know why - I guess because AI is something I think about often and the philosophical and ethical issues behind it. But really, I loved this movie and for the life of me cannot figure out why so many people hated it. Maybe it is this internal subconscious fear of what will one day happen that drives people to hate it? I really don't know, but this movie was brilliant and I can't imagine someone hating it.
And let me tell you, this movie had Kubrick written all over it - some things weren't carried out like he would of carried them out, you can definitely tell Speilberg made the film but I could tell a lot of Kubricks cynicism was in it as well and really reminded me a lot of 2001 Space Odyssey which is one of my favorite films of all time.
Have any of you guys watched this movie? What are your thoughts on it? Even if you hated it, why? I really want to discuss this movie.
And how adorable was Teddy? I want one so bad! lol.
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Post by missemme on Sept 17, 2005 12:23:07 GMT -5
I went to the theatre and watched it when it came out, so it's been awhile since l've seen it. I'll have to rent it again. I remember I cried when the Blue Lady(?) came to Teddy. (probably wrong, like I said long time) I remember I liked the movie
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Post by BurningStar4 on Sept 17, 2005 13:04:08 GMT -5
Yeah you're wrong haha. The Blue Lady is just a statue and they find her and stare at her for 2,000 years. Then after 2,000 years these super-mecca (NOT aliens) rule the world because they are the only thing left of civilization. But these super-mecca do not know about humans because they were made by other mecca and so on. They find David and bring him back to life (and Teddy too) and they want to talk with him because he has memories of the humans and they want to know what life was like with them, etc. So they basically telepathically make this replica of David's House and the Blue Fairy is in it, but she talks, because it's the only way for the super-mecca to communicate with David. He tells Blue fairy that he wants to be made into a real boy, so his mother will love him and they tell David they can help him out the best they can but his mother does not exist anymore, died roughly 2,000 years ago and they can bring people back to life, but only for a day (something about their memory I think, I can't remember all the details) and they need something from them that contains their DNA. Teddy enters with his locke of hair that David had cut off from his mother way back towards the beginning of the movie and they take this hair and make his mother for him - except this time she loves him and plays with him and stuff and its the best day of David's life, etc. etc. Then they go to sleep together at night and she dies and I am lead to believe that David "Dies" too....I think the super-mecca took him apart physically but he's left in this dream-like state (sorta Matrixy?). Then Teddy is there - still walking around - and alone I hated David for not giving Teddy enough love and appreciation but I guess he wasn't really capable of doing that either since his only real love was for his mother. I found it funny how Teddy was longing to be with David throughout the movie and David was only longing to be with his mother, instead of being happy that Teddy was with him, but like I said he wasn't capable of that emotion towards another - only his mom This movie really meant a lot to me, they've already made "people" A.I. in Japan - She's not anywhere near as high-tech as David was but it's already happened. I'm afraid that one day (maybe I won't live to see it) they will create something like David (and even the other mecca before him - like Gigolo Joe) that will be like a person but there will still be discrimination against them because they are not a "real" person yet they are able to think and feel like a person - when is the line breached? When is it acceptable for us to play "creator" and create things that will ultimately lead to our own downfall - whether they go apeshit on our ass or they just out live us and evolve just like "real" people, but end up evolving over us because gradually there will be more of them than us and we will become extinct like other things in our past and even the things in our present that are going extinct. I really loved the movie because of its aspect of AI and then also the evolution behind it.
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Post by missemme on Sept 17, 2005 22:42:34 GMT -5
That was it when he told the Blue Fairy he wanted to be a real boy so his mom would love him, cried buckets. I knew there was blue in there somewhere.
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Post by phillygirl2873 on Sept 19, 2005 8:07:34 GMT -5
I liked this movie up until he fell into the water. That's where the movie should have ended, for me. I think Speilburg ruined this movie with the whole alien (Super-mecca, or whatever) thing at the end which made the movie drag on. I didn't even like the blue fairy part, but even if it ended with him at the blue fairy I would have been ok with the movie. The movie was ok, and I did like it. But I think Speilburg should have kept the whole alien thing out of it. I think that was the general consensus of why people didn't like the movie.
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Post by BurningStar4 on Sept 20, 2005 0:07:13 GMT -5
I thought it was awesome, but they weren't aliens....and because they weren't aliens that's what sort of made it important, to see what the world was like that far in the future - no more humans, not even human memories, kind of like how we know nothing about dinosaurs, and something we had created, an artificial form of intelligence outlasted us all.
Kubrick wanted that ending, and I think if Kubrick had made the movie then tons of people would of loved it just because it was Kubrick. I don't even really like Speilberg's movies but I really did enjoy this one a lot and I didn't think the ending was flawed, but thats my opinion.
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Post by phillygirl2873 on Sept 20, 2005 11:44:54 GMT -5
Fair enough. It does shound more intriguing w/ them not being aliens, but still, the movie seemed to go on forever to me.
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Post by BurningStar4 on Sept 20, 2005 12:02:07 GMT -5
Well it was pretty lengthy, I think over 2 1/2 hours? Doesn't surprise me though. Kubrick is the one who was originally going to make the film, his movies tend to be around that length...then Speilberg picked it up after his death (after Kubrick suggested he film it instead of him since Speilberg had more of a "heart") and I heard he tried not to change much because he wanted it to be how Kubrick envisioned it. But I don't think he made the movie as dark as Kubrick would of...and I think that the very end of the movie would of been a little different, I know Kubrick wouldn't of ended the movie with David in bed with his Mom.
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Post by phillygirl2873 on Sept 20, 2005 13:57:30 GMT -5
I'm not adverse to long movies, just movies that drag. There have been plenty of long movies that I've seen that I didn't even notice were long. And I'm not saying AI was horrible. But one viewing was enough for me. And I do like Kubrick movies too, but not all. How's that for not commiting to any one statement.
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Post by BurningStar4 on Sept 20, 2005 15:43:07 GMT -5
haha.
AI didn't drag for me, I thought it had a nice pace.
2001 Space Odyssey is one of my favorite movies but it tends to drag and drag - which I understand why - but I think it is a little excessive at times.
I just don't really see why the movie (AI) got such a bad hype, I didn't even think it was bad and other peopel claim its the worst movie they've ever seen (big exaggeration - I could name 500 movies far worse than they could imagine right off the bat probably lol)
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Post by phillygirl2873 on Sept 21, 2005 12:02:25 GMT -5
True. I didn't think it was the worst movie ever made. Plenty of crap out there that's far worse.
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